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Capsaicin79  
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 5:07:50 pm)
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*spoilers* samara's form...
...that emerges from tv is not tangible. here's why i think it's not:

the group of high school kids all watch it at the same time, right? well, then they'd all logically die at the same time, right? (and they do, the TOD is the same for all of them)

how, if it's actually samara's 'physical form,' would she emerge from multiple televisions/mirrors/whatever (lets not get into the kids in the car) at the same time? i think it's in the viewer's mind. hence why noah was still in the chair, if you watch, he was sitting in the chair when he first sees samara's hand come out of the tv.. as for katie, i dont know.. maybe she crawls into the closet as she's dying, but noah doesn't move because he's too weak to get out of the chair? one can only speculate.

Edited by: ring rasen loop at: 11/4/02 4:39:03 pm
hm2k
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 5:12:03 pm)
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Re: *spoilers*samara's form that emerges from tv is not tang
Then where does the water come from?

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Capsaicin79  
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 5:14:07 pm)
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Re: *spoilers*samara's form that emerges from tv is not tang
perhaps the water is tangible, but samara is not? im still working on that part :p :lol

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Kitano
the chosen infected
(11/2/02 5:20:08 pm)
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Re: *spoilers*samara's form that emerges from tv is not tang
Even in the original Ringu, Sadako seems to be an image only seen by the victim, but in Ring 2 she was depicted as more than that... then again, the victims are usually isolated from everyone.

Masami saw Sadako killing her friend, Tomoko, which drove her crazy.

Edited by: Kitano at: 11/2/02 5:21:21 pm
Capsaicin79  
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 5:28:55 pm)
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Re: *spoilers*samara's form that emerges from tv is not tang
sorry, i dont know the names from the jap versions yet, is that the same characters as katie and becca? im assuming so :p

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Kitano
the chosen infected
(11/2/02 5:30:18 pm)
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Re: *spoilers*samara's form that emerges from tv is not tang
Yes, that's right. :) (I haven't seen the remake yet, but I know I'm right on this, heh)

sadakoiscute
shambler
(11/2/02 5:30:46 pm)
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Yeah i thought it was all in their minds too (referring to remake). but then how come when rachel entered noahs apartment, everything was trashed and knocked over?

i think this was discused in an earlier thread

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(11/2/02 5:33:21 pm)
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'cuz
everything was trashed and knocked over?

Noah was the one doing the trashing and knocking.


j.

Milly 
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 5:46:58 pm)
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yes,
And, that being so, he must've gotten out of the chair.
Only Noah could have left those bloody handprints on the floor.

I agree with the basic theory, though. I think her final, shocking manifestation is in the mind of the cursed, as has been discussed earlier. I think if we'd already seen the tape at Katie's moment of truth, we would have seen Samara, large as life (or even larger!) standing on the other side of that door. I still don't get the water, though. What's that about?

hm2k
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 5:53:29 pm)
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Despite my above comment...
...I actually support this theory. However, it seems to me that this theory would work much better with Ringu than it would with The Ring, as in Ringu, victims are only found frozen screaming in fear; however, in The Ring, not only is there water leaking from everywhere, but there are also horribly deformed, rotting bodies.

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SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/2/02 6:18:49 pm)
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Re: Despite my above comment...
What a dreadful way to die

pagnstix 
out from the well
(11/2/02 6:34:18 pm)
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Re: Despite my above comment...
i think if you try to make sense out of everything in this movie... then you would go crazy
this couldn't happen in the first place, so attempting to rationalize it just makes no sense.
but it can be fun!

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Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 4:25:11 pm)
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Noah
Noah actually sits on the floor in front of the TV. It's sort of cute because he sits just like Aidan. When Samara gets close to the screen he begins to backpedal a bit, scrambling to his feet when her head comes thru. When she sort of "zaps" up to him the first time, he falls backward, knocking over a shelf and breaking a glass vase. He is now in a complete panic and crawling away from her, falling over the riser to the living room and as he crawls, the heels of his hands come down on broken glass. He is on his back when the camera zooms on her evil, hateful face and that's the last we see. How he gets into the chair is anyones guess.

DaMan791
Sadako slave
(11/4/02 4:33:42 pm)
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Re: Noah
maybe she puts him in the chair..who knows

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/4/02 4:35:39 pm)
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Re: Re: Noah
But we all know we love it

DaMan791
Sadako slave
(11/4/02 4:37:27 pm)
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Re: Re: Noah
umm..yea :)

Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 4:41:07 pm)
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noah's death
I wonder if Noah would have been able to beat feet and get the hell out of there faster if he wasn't all freaked out by the ringing phone....the phone ringing in the background was so creepy-and haunting when Rachel comes into his apartment, the phone is still ringing and she slowly closes her cell phone.


I must say her scream when she sees him is probably one of the most blood-curdling I've heard. Terror and horror and disgust and fear and loss and grief all at once.

It also drove home the point that up until this moment-Rachel really didn't know what she was up against.

O Deka K
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 11:38:45 pm)
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Re: samara's form that emerges from tv is tangible
perhaps the water is tangible, but samara is not? im still working on that part

Um, but not only does the water start coming out of the TV, but Samara also drips water from her hands, dress and feet.

Before you die... you GOTTA see The Ring!

JyPsy
citizen of the Loopworld
(11/4/02 11:44:57 pm)
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Re: samara's form that emerges from tv is tangible
without rehashing it all, here is my theory.....

pub70.ezboard.com/ftherin...=910.topic

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