Author Comment
randym23
Sadako slave
(12/2/02 12:00:08 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del All
samara and sadako: meaning of the names
I think these names were deliberately chosen to portray
the restless spirit as both death and life incarnate, a force so powerful and threatening that it must look evil. but also
the coming eventual judgement of humanity.
for the name samara: The Appointment in Samara
By Somerset Maugham

A certain merchant in Baghdad sent his servant to the market to buy some provisions. A little while later, the servant returned looking white in the face. In a trembling voice he said, "Just now in the market place I was jostled by a man in the crowd, and when I turned I saw it was Mr. Death. He looked at me and made a threatening gesture. Please lend me your horse, because I want to go to Samara where Mr. Death will not be able to find me." The merchant agreed and lent the scared man his horse. The servant mounted the horse and rode away as fast as the animal could gallop. Later that day, the merchant went down to the market place and saw Mr. Death standing in the crowd. He approached him and said, "Why did you make a threatening gesture to my servant when you saw him this morning?" "That was not a threatening gesture," said Mr. Death. "It was only a start of surprise. I was astonished to see him in Baghdad, because I have an appointment with him tonight in Samara."

for the name sadako:
Sadako, a survivor of the atomic bomb which destroyed Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, is diagnosed with leukemia. She tries to make a thousand paper cranes so she can fulfill the legend that says a thousand paper cranes will bring her long life. She dies after completing 644 cranes. Themes: perseverance, hope, grief.
another little girl destroyed by inhumanity.

both figures portray the themes of death,grief, and a restless
soul that eventually judges all humanity.
these names cant be a coincidence.....

Just fixing the topic spelling...it was bugging me -MJ

Edited by: mikejonas at: 12/2/02 3:32:11 pm
Saul
manipulator of the Virus
(12/2/02 12:06:37 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Re: samara and sadaka: meaning of thenames
You are wrong about sadako there mate

There are more then one person with the name sadako,
the sadako ring is based on is Takahashi Sadako the psychic.

Also the name Sadako means Chasity


and with samara i believe just a conicidence, like i said i am sure there is more then one person or place with that name.


WELCOME TO THE BOARD!


Death smiles upon man... As a man, all I can do is smile back.

Edited by: Saul at: 12/2/02 12:14:38 pm
Tanuki
Sadako slave
(12/2/02 12:17:24 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Re: samara and sadaka: meaning of thenames
Interesting! The Appointment in Samara story is one of my favorite little fables, and I didn't even make the connection...

---
"I know that I was born and I know that I'll die.
The in between is mine."

randym23
Sadako slave
(12/2/02 12:41:45 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Re: samara and sadaka: meaning of thenames
thanks for correcting me on that sadako bit.
now i have a new subject to explore!
i havent seen the original ring yet---i dont know
where to find it!any suggestions as to where?

my mother used to always tell me that story
"appointment in samara". my jaw dropped when
i learned it was the girl's name in the ring.
thanks for the welcome.

Saul
manipulator of the Virus
(12/2/02 1:33:36 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Info on the real sadako
Here ya go..

pub70.ezboard.com/ftheringforumfrm4.showMessage?topicID=3.topic

scroll down to Js post on the real Sadako

Try this ringworld.somrux.com/ringMerchandise.htm might help you find the original version of Ring

Death smiles upon man... As a man, all I can do is smile back.

Edited by: Saul at: 12/2/02 1:38:07 pm
Mister Grey
citizen of the Loopworld
(12/2/02 7:24:19 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Sadako
The character that appears in the reptile eye on the Sadako video says "Sada," or "chaste." In Japan, most girl's names end with either -mi or -ko. I don't remember what -mi means, but -ko means "child." So Sadako is the "chaste child." (Note her attire of solid white; not only is white a symbol of purity, but the particular clothes that Sadako adorns while coming out of the well are funeral garments)

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(12/2/02 8:26:54 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Re: Sadako
-mi is "beauty."


j.

kidsleep
shambler
(12/8/02 10:44:02 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
talk about creepy....
I just checked out babynameworld.com and according to them, samara means "guarded by God" among other things. Geez, if the big man is on her side then we've got no chance.

InfluxDatum 
everyone will suffer
(12/8/02 10:53:47 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
Re: talk about creepy....
heh heh


N.W...so hot

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/8/02 11:14:50 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
my perpetual repost.
.: Name Meanings
US Ring
Samara: (Hebrew) ruled by God
Anna: (English, etc) graceful : Latinate form of (Hebrew) Hannah.
Morgan (as a surname): (Welsh) from the edge of the sea
Morgan (the horse breed): is easily recognized by his proud carriage, upright graceful neck, and distinctive head with expressive eyes. The Morgan horse agreeably adapts to his owner's life style.

Japanese Ring (kanji in shift-JIS code)
Sadako q: Righteous/chaste child (for those that have seen the Japanese movie, the first kanji, , is what you see in the eye in the cursed video)
Shizuko uÎq:motive/intent + haven + child
Yamamura R: Mountain village

Hopefully some of this is helpful to someone. I found the Morgan horse breed information a while back when I was trying to remember the url to themorganranch.com, and wasn't terribly surprised to find that Morgan horses are brown and -surprise- look just like the horses in the US Ring trailer and 'cursed video.'

Definitions of Samara:
noun: a winged often one-seed indehiscent fruit as of the ash or elm or maple (the tree in the movie is indeed a japanese maple.)
name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 50000 females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #2441)
name: A surname (very rare: popularity rank in the U.S.: #78802)

Definitions of Morgan: (I left in the results that seemed relevant to The Ring)
noun: an American breed of small compact saddle horses
noun: American biologist who formulated the chromosome theory of heredity (1866-1945)
name: A surname (very common: 1 in 847 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #57)

blah blah blah, and wakka wakka wakka.

-miharu