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hm2k
out from the well
(11/9/02 10:34:02 pm)
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What other ways could they have taken the premise?
Other than the Sadako/Samara route, what other ways do you think the basic premise ('Watch this tape and die in a week.') could have been taken?

Perhaps something evil in the Tape itself?

What other things could the 'Ring' symbolize?

What other kinds of images could the Tape contain?

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inteferon 
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(11/9/02 10:57:18 pm)
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Re: What other ways could they have taken the premise?
There were stories in the press about fifteen years ago or more about "killer white noise" that the CIA had supposedly developed. That the story is forgotten could be due to it having been a myth or that the availability of this weapon is highly classified. Supposedly an assassin can call you by phone from afar, play you this white noise, and you would spring a nosebleed and die on the spot. An autopsy would reveal no clues. The white noise was apparently composed of certain high frequencies that resonated or catastrophically interfered with your normal brain waves (I think they referred to it as ‘pink noise’).

Anyhow, there’s a lot of snow, noise and other interference on the Samara video and also on the TVs that come on just before the curse is about to climax. Where’s this going? The whole story could be more about technology/medicine than about evil.


miharu
everyone will suffer
(11/9/02 11:11:57 pm)
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Re: What other ways could they have taken the premise?
this sounds like the sort of thing they like to talk about on sevendaystolive.com (yes, one of the dreamworks sites)

-miharu

she never sleeps...

mikejonas
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(11/9/02 11:34:01 pm)
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Re: What other ways could they have taken the premise?
The guy over in moviepoopshoot.com who wrote an early article about the promotion of the remake mentioned something that struck me and reminded me of something in my background as a broadcast news editor:

News cameras catch some pretty horrible things...personally, I've seen burnt dead bodies, and a the top of a robbery suspect's head getting taken off by a police sniper. I'm sure it's a common but not-often-spoken of practice in news departments that the video editors compile all this disturbing footage that comes their way into a tape of horrors...like Faces of Death only with no cheesy reenactments, just one horrid piece of footage after another. Now imagine if all these acts of evil, accumulating on one videotape, gave rise to a supernatural sort of evil?

miharu
everyone will suffer
(11/9/02 11:42:31 pm)
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Re: What other ways could they have taken the premise?
i work for a fairly large newspaper and the idea of that, for some reason, is seriously creeping me out. there's been all kinds of photos, usually running in the wire section, that we get from the associated press that i've had to point out to editors to get them to change their mind about. with all of the bombings lately, many a front page picture has had pieces of burnt bodies and such lying around in the frame that none of the editors noticed, once i had circled 18 different body parts on one page proof and sent it back to them.
i know this is a little off of the tape theory, but i suppose it's nensha-ish enough. what about the equipment of war photographers? after capturing all of that suffering and evil, something's got to accumulate. *shiver*

-miharu

she never sleeps...

KuraiSoma 
further down the Spiral
(11/9/02 11:47:56 pm)
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Re: What other ways could they have taken the premise?
hm, the whitenoise thing sounds a bit like other things I heard.. one a good few people have probably been exposed to is the idea of the 'brown note' from southpark; which is actually based in fact. Sound at certain decibels can in fact do damage to more than your ear drums, the lower range of this inducing bodily shock and resulting in a loss of your bowels mixed with massive disorientation and loss of balance. Im fairly certain in higher levels that this can actually kill, I for one find it interesting that the millitary hasnt started an offensive by exposing enemy forces to this; sure seems like a surefire way for a ground based assault to succeed..

inteferon 
out from the well
(11/9/02 11:52:38 pm)
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Re: sevendaystolive
I just looked at the sevendaystolive site and it appears to be static and entirely promotional. The mumbo-jumbo on the site superficially covers enough bases to interest a wide assortment of paranormalists, but in the end the details are thin and of questionable value. Besides, there are a lot of REAL sites devoted to ghosts, goblins and UFOs - EG artbell.com (if you're into that type of bunk).

inteferon 
out from the well
(11/10/02 12:04:10 am)
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Acoustic weapons
The military and law enforcement are known to have developed 'non-lethal' acoustic weapons (for riot suppression, etc.) that are supposed to be more effective than water cannon and not as dicey as the immobilizing nerve gases (a la the recent Russian debacle). In fact, there's already an international treaty covering the development and use of these things. The concern is that they'll be a) easily made more potent (lethal) and b) used against citizens instead of foreign enemies.

miharu
everyone will suffer
(11/10/02 12:11:41 am)
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who wants frosty chocolate milkshakes?
oh, i never said that sevendaystolive.com was ever legit or truly offering any real insight to anything.. but the before-mentioned topic reminded me of when i had travelled to the website this summer ;p

-miharu

she never sleeps...

inteferon 
out from the well
(11/10/02 12:12:29 am)
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Re: What other ways could they have taken the premise?
I agree re: the accumulation and concentration of grisly images. Except for natural disasters, etc., I'm assuming these images and stories you've encountered relate to murders, terrorist attacks, etc. In my mind, man's deliberate inhumanity to man *is* true evil. I would be glad if someone developed Mikejonas's idea futher to illustrate how such evil might take on a "supernatural" flavor.