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Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/1/02 11:15:37 am)
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Water??
Since Sadako/Samara was trapped in a well, you would think she would be able to travel through water.

I just got the image of S. crawling out of a toilet.

Somehow it's not as scary.

SadakoIsEve
manipulator of the Virus
(11/1/02 11:19:43 am)
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Re: Water??
No not likely but she can however come out of any reflective surface

Talia Phoenix
Sadako slave
(11/1/02 11:21:04 am)
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Re: Water??
Erm...can someone expalin how she can come out of reflective services, or refer me to the thread??

Foust
Sadako slave
(11/1/02 11:25:20 am)
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It's Sadeko
They're talking about Sadeko, not Samara. In Ringu, she can attack from any reflective surface.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/1/02 11:26:59 am)
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Re: Re: Water??
I am not sure which thread or threads explain it or explain it best but indeed people have mentioned that in the japanese version even teens not near tv at end of seven days were killed. A pair by a rear view mirror and one died of fright after trying to desperate remove motorcycle helmet from his head. The images he was seeing were real frightening and of course such was Sadako's doing.

O Deka K
further down the Spiral
(11/1/02 11:33:19 am)
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Re: Water??
Allow me to quote the Ringworld FAQ (ringworld.somrux.com/faq.htm):

"In the novelized Ring, victims of the video curse are described as looking into reflective surfaces at the moment of their death and being horrified by what they see. In merging the movies with the backstory of the novels, we can explain Sadako's emergence as not so much "real" as it is a byproduct of the Ring Virus, a psychic projection born of energies so strong that group projection is possible (as in Ring 2, with Masami's flashback and the scene at the mental ward).

Furthermore, in this vision Sadako is not limited to emerging only from television sets. She can utilize any reflective surface: a car windshield in the case of Youko and Takehiko, the faceplate of a motorcycle helmet in that of Iwata (in the novel, he was described as clawing madly at the helmet, trying to remove it)."

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This is never stated explicitly in the movie. We can only infer it. Many people have taken this as fact.

Before you die... you GOTTA see The Ring!

Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/1/02 11:40:21 am)
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water??
Do you think they see Sadako emerging from the reflective surface? Or do they see a reflection of themselves being changed by her that frightens them?

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/1/02 11:42:11 am)
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Re: Re: Water??
I am not a math expert or a master of grammer but yes that is correct. We are to infer; just as we have so many other things of personal opnion based on what we do know for sure; that it is just a mind nightmare of a thing instead of actual emergence of Sadako

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/1/02 11:44:13 am)
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Re: water??
I believe the tape images sometimes at a fast fowarded speed and sounds and screeches in the ears. The bugs, the ladder, the well, the fingers squirming, the jumping off a cliff. MAKE IT STOP!!!! AHAHAHA O_O

Eliashoi and Ohtis
further down the Spiral
(11/1/02 12:03:22 pm)
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Re: water??
When Katie died, the 3 others that watched the video died too. Josh jumped out a window and it can be imagined that the room behind the window held a TV. However, the other two were killed in a car wreck. A car is much less likely to have a TV in it, so I assume that like Sadako, Samara can come out of any reflective serfaces She just prefers TVs. =)

-Eli

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/1/02 12:22:00 pm)
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Re: Re: water??
TVs are one the scariest things on Earth Eli *nods wisely*

ClovoGrlk
shambler
(11/1/02 1:44:53 pm)
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...
I would definately pick a television entrance over coming out of a dinky little mirror in a car ... it's more ... hmm ... interesting is the word I'm looking for ... I think :D

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(11/1/02 3:49:11 pm)
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Thanks to O Deka K
...for quoting from the FAQ and helping to clear that up. The "reflective surface" theory is far from canonical-- it's just an idea I came up with, using elements from the novel to try and explain what would otherwise be a major plot hole in the movie treatment.


j.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/1/02 3:56:14 pm)
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Re: Thanks to O Deka K
And so no one knows for sure but the guru's theory to patch up plot hole isn't all that bad

pagnstix 
further down the Spiral
(11/1/02 4:07:41 pm)
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Re: Thanks to O Deka K
also... a TV is something that absolutely everyone can relate to, so it makes it more real.

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the exorcist will live in my mind forever.