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Tokage
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 3:29:31 pm)
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The fingers in the box - another explanation
Well, we know that the quivering severed fingers seen in a box during "The Ring" cursed video were supposed to be originally explained by the mutilation of Samara by a hired killer. Since that concept was done away with, how do we explain those fingers? ( Not that we really NEED to, it's just fun to try.)

Since the sensors inserted down Samara's throat at the Institute were linked to the images of organs being removed through a corpse's mouth in the video, it's safe to say that Samara's twisted mind could produce macabre images that were merely INSPIRED by actual events.

So..... maybe the severed fingers in the box were simply an image created by Samara in reference to the damage she inflicted to her fingers trying to climb out of the well.

Edited by: Tokage at: 11/5/02 3:43:27 pm
DaMan791
further down the Spiral
(11/5/02 3:38:43 pm)
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Re: The fingers in the box - another explanation
Yeah I think you may be right on that one..Any other thaughts?

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Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/5/02 3:47:50 pm)
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Fingers in a box
That wasn't take-out??

Tastes like Chicken....

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/5/02 4:16:43 pm)
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Re: The fingers in the box - another explanation
Groovey

Tokage
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 4:26:34 pm)
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Re: Groovey !


You got it!

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/5/02 4:28:55 pm)
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Re: Re: Groovey!
Ash could easily defeat Earthworm Jim in combat you think?

O Deka K
further down the Spiral
(11/5/02 5:40:13 pm)
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Cheap pun
This has already been suggested before by someone else, but I liked it so much I had to say it again:

They're ring fingers!! :lol

Before you die... you GOTTA see The Ring!

Agent Virux
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 6:36:00 pm)
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Re: Fingers and Faces
ROFLMAO!!!

I'll take mine medium rare, thanks... :)

There's been some talk about Samara killing fish. The fingers in the box flopped and wiggled a lot like fish on dry land. Maybe she had a thing for fishsticks and wanted some finger food? *ducking for cover* Okay, my humor overstayed it's welcome before it arrived, but seriously... do you think there's a connection between the fingers and the fish?


I was also curious, regarding the image of the face with the weird rope like thingy coming out of its mouth... anyone else notice that the face has the same quality, tint, structure and such as Samara's face, as you see it when she reveals it to Noah? I could almost see her squeezing her ghastly little eyes shut, opening her mouth in a wide "ring" shape and that thing shooting out!


So then I wondered if it had any connection at all to how the tape came into being in the cabin in the first place? Any likelihood it could be a metaphorical image of her projecting her "energy" upward from the well, through the floor, into the VCR and onto the tape? Sometimes, the image look very straightforward to me... and sometimes they take on a sort of "emotional representation" of either memory or future forecast.


Yep, I have a fertile imagination and too much time on my hands. Wooohooo! But hey, it works, it works!

Agent V
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Felix Underhill
out from the well
(11/5/02 6:42:20 pm)
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Re: Fingers and Faces
I had mentioned before that, if I recall correctly, there were seven fingers in the box. Perhaps an allusion to seven days? Who knows...

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/5/02 6:44:51 pm)
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Re: Re: Fingers and Faces
Whatever works Agent Virux.. go with it *giggles*

Agent Virux
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 6:55:40 pm)
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Re: Re: Fingers and Faces
*laughing* You're too cool, SadakoIsEve. I meant to thank you for the welcome hug and brownies. And I do, very much! :) It's nice to be made to feel welcome.

Was just reading your posts about your personal reactions to the Ring. For the record, I now hate mirrors even more then I once did, I don't ~remotely~ like any dark areas in this house (and this is a big house with way too many of 'em), I hate every "strange" noise, would probably flip out if my TV ever suddenly goes to static and I must look like a ghost myself wandering from room to room at night with this huge lit candle bobbing in my hand.


The Fingers: Oy, I didn't even think to count the fingers! Seven fingers for seven days.. yep, I like, I like!! Maybe I should eat supper next time ~before~ trying to interpret fishy-like finger floppin'. ;)

Agent V.
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Mister Grey
citizen of the Loopworld
(11/5/02 6:57:13 pm)
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Hmmm
If I recall correctly, there were hash marks on the wall of the well where Samara had been tallying her days. Maybe she'd been cutting her finger on a sharp stone and writing in blood?

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/5/02 6:59:38 pm)
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Re: Hmmm
Doubtful but if so how dreadfully dreadful

ApacheRose
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 8:04:30 pm)
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fingers
Perhaps sje actually lost fingers from desperately trying to climb out, and she undoubtedly deveolped hypothermia...

I also like the interpretation of there being seven fingers counting the seven days.

Maybe that's how she kept track of time while she was alive down there...EWWWWWE!!!!!

-Diana

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/6/02 2:23:43 pm)
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Re: fingers
I found most of the responses here quite amusing but fairly implausible. I've been wracking my brain for an explanation and the best that I can come up with is this:

Given this story's Japanese roots, I believe that in Japan it is a custom to ceremonially sever a finger as an act of contrition. Also, in A Man Called Horse, Horse's foster mother severed her forefinger in a fit of grief when her son Yellow Hand was killed in battle.

Possibly, as an act of grief and/or contrition, Anna severed a digit for every one of the seven days (the significance of seven being the subject of much speculation).

Agent Virux
Sadako slave
(11/6/02 4:12:43 pm)
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Re: fingers
The Japanese reference is also a very interesting idea. Dreamworks seemed to have riddled the movie with quite a few entertaining references and associations to its Japanese predecessor, as with Samara's own name, the burning tree and such. If Anna did cut her fingers off, one for every day Sam lived down in the well, the idea infers that she would have to know - or at the very least intuit either by Sam's projections or by her own abilities - that Sam did indeed live seven days before succumbing to her fate.

If she did know, and as a result trying to reconcile by using the aforementioned symbolic method of contrition, what do you think accounts to the image near the end of the tape, where Anna leaps to her death from the clifftop? As she makes her leap, she spreads her arms (and hands - fully intact) just prior to disappearing over the cliff.

I'm not sure that I agree with the idea that she cut off her fingers (though for the record, I'm not sure I agree with the flopping fish theory either) but I would fully concede that it's possible. Again, some of the images seem to be literal bits of either memory or foretelling, and some seem to be emotional representations conjured by Sam. :)

One thing I definitely ~dearly~ adore about this movie is the fact that it's so very wide open to all sorts of interpretations, theories and possibilities. I, for one, am more than grateful that they were not only able, but actively focused toward, making sure there's plenty left to debate and discuss well after the movie makes its transition from theatre to DVD.

LOL! I'll be one of the first in line to snatch up a copy for myself and a few of my friends as soon as it becomes available! :rollin

Agent V
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Tokage
Sadako slave
(11/6/02 4:16:13 pm)
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Re: fingers
Quote:
Possibly, as an act of grief and/or contrition, Anna severed a digit for every one of the seven days (the significance of seven being the subject of much speculation).


Anna had no way of knowing that Samara was still alive for seven days in the well after she suffocated her and pushed her in -- she thought Samara had died immediately.


I'm sticking with the idea that Samara's mind just conjured up a gruesome severed finger-related image to go along with the nail-through-the finger image that symbolized her pain in the well.

Edited by: Tokage at: 11/6/02 4:19:37 pm
SadakoIsEve
the chosen infected
(11/6/02 4:27:17 pm)
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Re: Re: fingers
I agree with you Tokage

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/6/02 4:56:03 pm)
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Re: fingers
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Anna had no way of knowing that Samara was still alive for seven days in the well after she suffocated her and pushed her in -- she thought Samara had died immediately.


What you say is possible, but not certain. For all we now, Anna may have been receiving vibes from Samara in the well, realized her gruesome mistake of 'burying' her child alive, and when the vibes died down (or changed), she knew it was over.

Rhyamoonlight
Sadako slave
(11/7/02 1:15:41 am)
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Re: fingers
What you say is possible, but not certain. For all we now, Anna may have been receiving vibes from Samara in the well, realized her gruesome mistake of 'burying' her child alive, and when the vibes died down (or changed), she knew it was over.

i think that idea.....i dont see Samara bein in the well and not send'n "vibes" to Anna... i think she finally lept to her death because he shoudlnt handle the "vibes" she thoguht it was over.. and it wasnt....