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CptObvious
Sadako slave
(10/22/02 3:51:43 pm)
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The Ring (all films, books etc) was she ever defeated??
Obviously this was never answered in the Remake, but in all the material relating to this series, was Sadako / Samara ever defeated, or the curse / virus ever stopped?

If so, how was it done

Edited by: CptObvious at: 10/22/02 3:54:09 pm
Kitano
the chosen infected
(10/22/02 4:13:42 pm)
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Re: The Ring (all films, books etc) was she ever defeated??
In the books, never, up until Rasen, at least. Humanity gets wasted.

Just watched Japanese Ring and Ring 0, so far, I don't know if she's defeated in Ring 2.

Kiriyama06
everyone will suffer
(10/22/02 5:10:09 pm)
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Re: The Ring (all films, books etc) was she ever defeated??
nope she doesn't get defeated in Ring 2, well, she does in the sense that Mai and Yoichi get away but she's still around just waiting for the next victim. She is reduced to a brain in a jar for the Dreamcast game though, and if that aint defeat I dunno what is!!

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CptObvious
Sadako slave
(10/22/02 5:21:53 pm)
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Re: The Ring (all films, books etc) was she ever defeated??
see this is what I dont understand..The remake keeps her as a metaphysical being, a ghost if you will...How does she take physical form again in the sequel, or is it that the remake didnt really portray what the series was really like...I got the distinct sense what crawled out of the TV was not her being phsyically there, just a means to the end at the 7 day mark.

rachel
further down the Spiral
(10/22/02 6:16:01 pm)
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physical form
she doesn't take physical form in the sequel. Not Ring 2, anyway. I have yet to watch Rasen, I understand she is reborn in that, via her virus impregnating people. The timeline of the novels explains that the curse was really a virus, and that you get sick and die after 7 days. The movies seemed to portray it as more of a curse, like, "do what I want, or I will come for you in 7 days." You just have to figure out what the spirit wants, rather than finding a cure within 7 days.

CptObvious
further down the Spiral
(10/22/02 6:18:43 pm)
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Re: physical form
so the virus is transmitted by watching the tape? That seems a bit weak compared to the supernatural take, the fact its a virus completely dulls this series down for me...A curse seems to fit so much better...also why does Sadako appear if its the virus that kills you in 7 days, and not actually her

Kiriyama06
everyone will suffer
(10/22/02 6:30:37 pm)
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Re: physical form
this is where the books and the movies separate, The virus is a product of the books and is irrelevant to the movies (except Rasen but i'm referring to the canon of Ring,2,and 0) and in the books there is no appearance from Sadako when your time is up! For a description of what happens see the FAQ on ringworld.

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miharu
citizen of the Loopworld
(10/22/02 7:20:50 pm)
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ew.. the dreamcast game..
while her brain is in the jar, she's got all of humanity by the balls ;p
i love the idea of a loopworld.. it's so silly and creepy at the same time..

-miharu

itchytriggafingajigga
shambler
(10/22/02 7:38:49 pm)
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what!!
WHAT!!! there is a dreamcast game!!!??? someone link me!!!! reviews pic, whatever!!

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(10/22/02 8:49:10 pm)
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Link to info. on D'cast game

www.us.infogrames.com/games/thering_dc/

Remember folks, there's lots of info. on the main ringworld site ;) . This link was taken from the merchandise page.

There's also an older thread that talks about Loop/the DC game here:

pub70.ezboard.com/ftherin...ID=2.topic


j.

Kiriyama06
everyone will suffer
(10/22/02 9:01:02 pm)
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Re: Link to info. on D'cast game
although..it..does look...very...very...bad!!

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Edited by: Kiriyama06 at: 10/22/02 9:02:48 pm
Lithium
manipulator of the Virus
(10/23/02 12:30:50 am)
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Re: Link to info. on D'cast game
Oh yes... the curse... you've got to find a way to survive the curse... before day 7...

meanwhile, you'll lead armies of monsters and do a lot of running, fighting, and shooting of all sorts of deadly creepy crawly certainly non-human things, leap impossible walls and crevices, collecting an array of weapons, and maybe... just maybe... actually thinking of doing something halfway related to that curse you've since forgotten about in all the gunfire and bloodletting.

Now that's a worthy Ring game...

COMMING SOON!
The Ring 2: Yoichi's Revenge
Starring:
Daveigh Chase as Samara
Justin Timburlake as Yoichi
Arnold Schwartzneggar as General Suzuki
Sadako Yamamura as Becca
[MoviePhone guy's gravely voice]
"In a world where you must be cautious to survive, one man learned that lesson. He watched the wrong tape at the wrong time. Now he must fight for his life... or die trying".

[throw in some explosions and violent scenes of gunfire, etc]

"Arnold Schwartzeneggar is.... "

[cue up the motorcycle here]

"General Suzuki..."

[Arnold running around with a gun bigger than him screaming]

"...in..."

[a bunch of random imagery, explosions, and throw in some subliminal tits just to grab some attention]

"The Ring 2: Yoichi's Revenge"

Kiriyama06
the chosen infected
(10/23/02 5:14:03 pm)
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Re: Link to info. on D'cast game
Justin Timberlake? you're one sick puppy!

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Mister Grey
citizen of the Loopworld
(10/23/02 5:45:01 pm)
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Yes
The Ring television miniseries (where characters die after 13 days) had Sadako being defeated when the doctors successfully created an antibody to the virus. And not a moment too soon; in this version a high school girl was just preparing to show the cursed video to her homeroom class in order to save herself.

Gijinka Lugia
out from the well
(10/23/02 5:47:27 pm)
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Re: Yes
Justin Timberlake? you're one sick puppy!

Oh, but yes.. There's one more cast addition...

Britney Spears as Rachel Keller

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medicalstudent
shambler
(10/26/02 4:58:40 pm)
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So what happens if people keep spreading the video tape
and every single person who sees it makes a copy for someone else? Nobody ever dies then?

If thats so, then what happens if the whole world views the tape and makes a copy? Samara's curse comes to an end?

Milly
Sadako slave
(10/26/02 5:20:43 pm)
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Re: So what happens if people keep spreading the video tape
They worked it out mathematically (somewhat shadily, too) in the TV series - The last group of people to get the tape will not have anyone to show it to, because the rest of the world will have already seen it. This group contains the largest number of people in it of all the previous groups; it's the bottom of the pyramid. One in four people will die.
They also talked about people who would die rather than show it to anyone else. In the end, Sadako's hatred is defeated by good, old fashioned, sappy-ass love.
Except, of course, for the roughly one in four of us who will die horrible deaths.;)

In the books... (bwa) something entirely different happens (bwa-ha). You should check out (BWA-ha-ha) the timeline (snort) on the Ringworld main page (BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA). I, for one (giggle) found it very, very cool (degenerates completely into loud, long, maniacal laughter).

SadakoIsEve
Sadako slave
(10/27/02 10:32:38 am)
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Re: Yes
And here is a gentle reminder though I am sure 90% have already read this: The virus is 70% smallpix virus and 30% genetic code. Sadako's genetic code.

This will never be bodeing in the American version and maybe this thread isn't place to put this reminder but after reading the posts I decided to giddy myself by saying this

SadakoIsEve
Sadako slave
(10/27/02 10:34:24 am)
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Re: Yes
Er typo. Smallpox I meant to say

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(10/27/02 3:32:01 pm)
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the series
They worked it out mathematically (somewhat shadily, too) in the TV series.

LOL! I see someone else has seen the series (which is shady in and of itself... now will you please help me drive a pickaxe through Kyouno Kotomi's soul?!?)


j.

Milly 
Sadako slave
(10/29/02 7:18:17 pm)
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lol
Sure! Are you busy... (checking datebook) seven days from now?

Milly 
Sadako slave
(10/29/02 7:19:37 pm)
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hmmm...
...or should I say 13 days... or... Oh, hell... let's do it now!

SadakoIsEve
out from the well
(10/29/02 7:28:34 pm)
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Re: hmmm...
*hands Milly the pickax*