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HotShot2387
out from the well
(12/3/02 7:49:51 pm)
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Strange Character
I cant find any other threads of this, so who is that guy with the hat on that island with the dead horses. I think he was either in the video or the newspaper, and that he had some significance, albeit a small one. Whats with that guy?

A pic will be here soon. hehe cant wait

mikejonas
moderator
(12/3/02 8:16:54 pm)
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Re: Strange Character
This guy? Obviously a sheriff or other government/law enforcement figure investigating the horse deaths.

HotShot2387
out from the well
(12/3/02 11:32:37 pm)
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Re: Strange Character
So he wasnt in samaras video? There seemed to be some emphasis on him.

A pic will be here soon. hehe cant wait

HotShot2387
out from the well
(12/3/02 11:34:27 pm)
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Re: Strange Character
Looks kinda sinister, anyways

A pic will be here soon. hehe cant wait

HotShot2387
out from the well
(12/4/02 6:59:44 pm)
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?
Does no replies mean that the guy has no significance?

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/4/02 7:31:42 pm)
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Re: ?
probably not, but i don't think we'll know for sure until a sequel of some sorts.. they don't really provide any other leads on the character on the website or movie other than that picture.

-miharu

inteferon
the chosen infected
(12/4/02 8:28:22 pm)
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Re: ?
I strikes me as an unnatural picture to use for the story. The item of interest is the horse and the puzzlement of the immediate bystanders. Having the stiff, authoritarian figure standing in the foreground defocussing attention and staring in an unrelated direction seems stupid to me. Is it a recruitment ad or or a news item? Sorry, the compoistion of this shot bugs me for some reason.

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/4/02 9:42:28 pm)
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actually, it's pretty typical of newspapers to run photos like this. they wouldn't want to focus in on anything dead, and why not put the investigator (and head investigator at that) in the foreground? sorry if i sound too sure of myself, i work at a newspaper and have to look at the pictures that editors decide upon almost as much as the text they use. if that makes any sense...

-miharu

inteferon
the chosen infected
(12/4/02 9:49:51 pm)
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Re: ?
Makes sense, thanks. I'm too linear sometimes. Okay - most times.

Ghetto Ring
everyone will suffer
(12/5/02 11:42:37 am)
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Re: ?
Ooooh, new theory cooking up. What if Samara was actually the failed result of a top-secret government experiment? However, they didn't know it failed until their volunteer (Anna Morgan) to take care of the child started seeing visions, saying they were from samara. So Richard, a secret government agent who was against this experiment from the start, convinced Anna to kill the child, thus covering up the government's failiure so they could restart and learn from their mistakes. Yet Anna couldn't take it and killed herself. So Richard was kept posted at the farm for damage control and to prevent anyone from snooping too closely.


p.s. It's just a theory, not my personla belief. But it's fun!

-One man, one obsession: The Ring!

Maxi3D
shambler
(12/5/02 1:42:15 pm)
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Woooh, Another X-files
Agents Mulder and Scully will on the case right away.

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/5/02 6:33:01 pm)
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heh.. now that i've taken a good look at the picture of the article.. man oh man did they do a hack job of making that look like an actual newspaper article. i have a bunch of reasons that i could get into, but it would probably bore everyone and prove how anal i am.
just about the only thing they got right is the look of the photograph ;p

-miharu

StrangenessDSS
further down the Spiral
(12/5/02 7:16:04 pm)
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Re: Woooh, Another X-files
You think that's a bad hack job?

HotShot2387
out from the well
(12/5/02 9:45:01 pm)
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hmmmm, a government conspiracy? Was that doctor part of it ( the one "killed" by Samara)? That might make sense if so. Then in the sequel, the strange character will use that sinister look of his and cause some mischief. Hey, let's get really out there shall we? Why is he wearing sunglasses in th fall/winter when its not even that bright out? Maybe he is a Samara thing two, and covering his eyes prevents him from giving people the look.

A pic will be here soon. hehe cant wait

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/6/02 2:46:00 am)
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Re: Woooh, Another X-files
yes, actually i do.

before i start into this.. you asked for it ;p

rule number one of newspaper design: pictures need captions. how can i tell it isn't flush on the left side of the page? there would be a credit for the photographer flush right, with the rest of the caption flush left beneath it.
rule number two: headlines are always in serif fonts (never italicized), sub-heads are in sans serif fonts (usually italicized). the header of the first article is in a sans-serif font and the second article has an italicized serif. both wrong? yes. inconsistant? that too ;p
rule number three (which was followed in the second example, not in the first): the byline always identifies the agency that the writer works for whether it be the paper itself or the AP, etc. both articles appear to be from the Seattle P-I, which is only identified in one article with an unneeded "Staff Writer" following it up.
rule number four: articles that aren't short briefs (which is neither article posted above) always feature the first paragraph as a summary paragraph. while existant in the second article, the first one either doesn't have one or has an incredibly weakly written one.
rule number five: the location of the subject of the article is always the first word of the article. this is done in the first article but not the second.

nitpicky things: in the 1978, when these papers were supposed to have ran during, type was hand-cut, waxed and placed on pages to be shot on to negative.. not so obviously paginated (or done on computer) like these. how can i tell? i do the hand-cut method every day (yes.. we're behind the times at my paper ^^;;)
the font for the byline of the second example is absurd and hardly readable. bylines are usually in all caps as well.
the story above it has a strange jumpline: it only says "Page B-4, Column 1" and doesn't say anything like the standard "Continued on Page B-4", not to mention that it looks like it's supposed to be the first article, but if you read both, they're far from the same article.

thank you for allowing my brain to vomit up all of this after i get home from work ;p

AAAANNNNNDDD

i have to give dreamworks credit, they tried really hard. i don't think anyone would have noticed it if they didn't have to stare at newspaper layout 8 hours a day like i do.

-miharu

Edited by: miharu at: 12/6/02 2:59:04 am
inteferon
the chosen infected
(12/6/02 3:12:22 am)
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Newspaper stuff
Miharu, thanks for the insider view.

What do you think was the upshot for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer to be featured so prominently in the movie? It is so front-and-center that I have a sense that the Pacific Northwest was chosen as a locale almost expressly so that the Seattle-PI could have such a starring role. Makes me wonder if one of the Dreamworks insiders is related to someone at the paper (or together with Martha Stewart, owns a lot of shares ;) )

In some ways the movie went out of it's way to refer to real locations and then stopped short with Moesko Island, Eola, etc. If they were that concerned about fan mobbing of movie locales, they certainly provided enough other targets.

In some ways too the paper didn't get portrayed in an entirely flattering way. EG. The "Seattle Post-Intelligencer" sign on the ceiling rafter behind Rachel's desk looked really tacky and I don't think that their HR dept. necessarily appreciated Rachel's demonstration of wanton insubordination without consequences.

StrangenessDSS
further down the Spiral
(12/6/02 3:16:36 am)
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Re: Woooh, Another X-files
That's certainly interesting. I love hearing people talk about what they know, and I don't care how useless and boring the information may seem. I'm helplessly addicted to knowledge of all sorts.

The reason I posted that, however, was to point out an obvious error in the second article, an error which makes it much worse of a hack job than the first one. You probably didn't notice it due to not looking for that type of error, but it's very obvious to the average person.

inteferon
the chosen infected
(12/6/02 3:25:12 am)
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Re: Woooh, Another X-files
Besides being really bad writing style, there's a swack of typoes. "And" becomes "ad" twice. Capitalization error: "I Don't know", etc. There is a paragraph that is duplicated. And the choice of the writer's name as "Damien" was dumb, IMO.

StrangenessDSS
further down the Spiral
(12/6/02 3:30:30 am)
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Re: Strange Character
Actually, that paragraph is duplicated three times. Once in the lower left, once in the middle right, and once in the upper right.

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/6/02 5:05:05 am)
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Re: Strange Character
heh.. see what i mean? i'm too busy looking at the layout to notice the stuff that i SHOULD be noticing.. especially when i'm usually the one that points out typographical and grammatical errors out to editors. ^^;;

anyhoo, i hope someone found my post interesting. heheh

-miharu

Huw Lines
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(12/6/02 7:10:11 am)
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Re: Strange Character
I wonder if all of that (repeating paragraphs, typos, etc.) was a mistake, or whether they thought it wouldn't matter as it would only be on the screen for a second or two?

As for the man with the hat, I don't think he's significant. He's just a cop or something who was at the scene and was caught in that photo, I expect.

Ghetto Ring
everyone will suffer
(12/6/02 9:19:18 am)
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Re: Strange Character
He's the leader of a secret evil government project i tell you!

*runs into wall*

-One man, one obsession: The Ring!

HotShot2387
out from the well
(12/6/02 4:40:16 pm)
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Clone
He is clearly a clone of Samara. C'mon look at how similar they look; how can someone not agree with me?

Ghetto Ring
everyone will suffer
(12/6/02 5:41:54 pm)
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Re: Clone
Ya know, now that you mention it he does look like samara!
Of course the room is also spinning...

-One man, one obsession: The Ring!

inteferon
the chosen infected
(12/6/02 5:47:54 pm)
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Re: Clone
Heh. The light area behind his head is an upside-down bust of a horsey.

Huw Lines
moderator
(12/7/02 1:35:47 am)
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Re: Clone
You're all Rong - he's the American incarnation of En no Odzuno.

SSJPabs 
out from the well
(12/7/02 2:38:33 am)
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Argh! RONG!!!!! Sadamara please take me now! :x !!

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/7/02 2:57:32 am)
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sads sadamara samako sammypants!

it's the ringworm tongue twister :D

-miharu

inteferon
the chosen infected
(12/7/02 3:26:44 am)
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Re: Clone
Rite or rong, "En no Odzuno" doesn't ring a bell. Who is he/she/it again, please?

btw, Huw - Which forum(s) are you moderating?

miharu
the chosen infected
(12/7/02 3:43:57 am)
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Re: Clone
it's the statue that shizuko found in the sea/cave/whatever. basically the start of it all ;p

-miharu

Huw Lines
moderator
(12/7/02 7:02:22 am)
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Re: Clone
There's more about En no Odzunu in J's FAQ. Basically Shizuko's powers are supposed to have developed rapidly after she brought the stone figure up from the ocean floor. Odzunu was a religious ascetic who, through his training, gained occult powers such as the ability to invoke evil spirits.

Inteferon, I'm a mod for Cult of Sadako, Circle of Samara and Open Topic (along with Kame and Mike). I have no special super-powers on Great Horror's Horror Extremists board! That is solely the realm of the Horrid One himself.

I'm still familiarizing myself with the various moderator controls and functions, so I hope I don't make too big a mess of things;)