re: American re-make
I thought this was an excellent film and am not being critical in
asking the following - Iím just curious what other viewers
1. When Samara is being questioned by the shrink,
what are the wires connected between her feet and the
2. What's the meaning of all the EEG/ECG electrodes? I
recall nowhere in the movie that any such monitoring was being
3. Why did Richard Morgan not want a child? After all,
since there were several miscarriages, he must have been a willing
participant in several impregnations.
4. Why is it that in
the Japanese version the father kills the child and the opposite
parent does so in the remake? Did this not upset the story line in a
way that required other significant departures from the
5. The hermaphrodite references are omitted in the
re-make. Would this have been considered too strong a subject for
American audiences or altered the rating?
6. If Dreamworks
secured the official re-make rights, why aren't the makers of that
awful FearDotCom movie getting their butts sued off for such a
thinly veiled rip-off?
7. Why did Richard Morgan have such a
strong reaction on learning from Rachel of the existence of a tape
with a message from Samara, and then display such a cooling in his
interest when he learned there was also a copy? One would think that
if he was interested in destroying all evidence or preventing future
harm by taking any and all of Samaraís messages out of circulation,
he might have tried to a) see what was on the tape that Rachel had,
and b) cajole her into revealing where the copy was.
it just myself, or did anyone else have the sense that the Samara
that crawled out of the TV set appeared fully grown in some of the
TIA for your insights.
that big of a rip off...
If Feardotcom is a rip off because of the whole 'time limit to
death after seeing something' then all the slasher films could sue
other slasher films for stealing their idea.
Lets look at
The woman at the website was mulated by
her killer and hidden in an abandoned factory.
was killed by (her father/a professor/her mother) and dumped into a
The women in the website wants her death avenged and
will free anyone that helps.
Sadako/Samara wants to destory
mankind because she was (killed/raped and killed) and thrown in the
No explanation on the creation of the website or how
exactly it kills.
Sadako/Samara has psychic powers and kills
by infecting with a virus and appearing to the people on the final
The website gives 48 hours to live but hints at what
The videotape gives 7 days and in the novel, had
instructions on how to survive but they were recorded
The women from the website avenges her death, her body
is found, and the main character survives because of it and the
cursed website disappears.
Sadako/Samara's body is found, and
the main character survives but not because of finding the
body,still wants mankind to feel her wrath.
I like Feardotcom
AND the Ring.
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 6:29:07 am)
>>1. When Samara is being questioned by the shrink, what are
the wires connected between her feet and the wall?
the meaning of all the EEG/ECG electrodes? I recall nowhere in the
movie that any such monitoring was being
Let me kill two birds with one stone:
the wires that you saw went up Samara's legs and were connected to
electrodes attached under her dress. We didn't see them, but they
everyone will suffer
(11/2/02 8:28:48 am)
3. Panic attack after so many miscarriages or he had given up
hopeing and wanted to settle down into NOT haveing a child. Keep
"trying" just to cement relationship and keep it healthy
4. No big deal so don't worry. If indeed it matters
then surely sequel will explain why killer was mom not
5. Yep too strong an issue
7. He thought curse
over. He doesn't want to be cursed. He'd rather end his
8. Many noticed that but I think it is same ol Samara
just more serious and menaceing
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 12:17:16 pm)
Actually, I think Richard knows nothing about the cursed tape. I
think that he is confused as to what Rachael is referring to; he
think's she means the tape from the mental hospital.
thinks she means to do a story on Samara and the history of her
involvement with the string of events that happened so many years
so. He has no knowledge of the Tape.
This is a movie blunder in my opinion. The cords were definitely
EEG electrodes... but yet you dont see any of the electrodes
attached to her scalp during the psychiatric interviews.
only possible explanation would be that they were actually ECG
(cardiac) instead of EEG electrodes, but that doesnt make sense
either. During a psychiatric session you arent interested generally
in cardiac waveforms, you want the brain signals.
similarities of major themes (Ring/Fear.com)
Thanks for the responses.
While I agree that the more
typical slasher films borrow heavily from each other, the
similarities between The Ring and FearDotCom are too striking to be
a co-incidence and border on mean-spirited plagiarism (especially
given the respective release dates):
1. In both instances a
couple with a love interest are both infected by watching something
forbidden (female first, then male) and must race against time to
solve the mystery.
2. In both case an abused female entityís
corpse lies hidden under water and the thrust of the plot is for the
heroine to find the corpse. She may receive help from the male
partner to find the general location of the body, but must then
interact with the corpse alone. Avenging female corpses are common
themes (I Spit On Your Grave, etc.), but the water theme and the
methodology of corpse discovery are too similar.
similarities in the surreal, grainy solarized imagery of the
web/tape content were a dead giveaway. Furthermore, the strong
(phallic?) theme of the lighthouse and the chimneystack as the
primary location indicators was no co-incidence.
Spontaneous nosebleeds in horror films are rare.
While I an
not easily disturbed, I found the graphic misogynistic violence of
FearDotCom to be totally excessive, pointless (beyond cheap shock
value) and beyond pornographic. Yech!
further down the Spiral
(11/2/02 1:04:05 pm)
is just so bad and so annyoing that...
Mr. Jackass Ebert had better reviews going for it than for the