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inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 6:03:55 pm)
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Ring observations - the newspaper article
I'm going to go to see The Ring again in about 6 hours. If there are any particular details that you missed and want me to keep an eye out for, let me know.

Edited by: ring rasen loop at: 11/7/02 1:58:51 pm
Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 6:36:16 pm)
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Re: Taking requests for Ring observations
Yeah, if you could, right before Noah gets the whammy, he's reading the paper-could you try and peep what the headline is??

Thanks!

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 8:08:36 pm)
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Requests
Okey-dokey - will certainly try.

Request line open for 3.5 more hours....

Mister Grey
citizen of the Loopworld
(11/4/02 8:13:10 pm)
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Also
Also in Noah's death scene, an ottoman is present amongst his furniture. Some people have pointed out that it's missing when Rachel finds his corpse. See if you can spot it anywhere in the room

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 9:27:08 pm)
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Re: Also
Missing furniture - sounds like a lapse by the continuity crew. Still, I'll try to see where it went in the scuffle.

T minus 2 hours

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(11/4/02 9:46:44 pm)
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Re: Also
What's an ottoman?


j.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/4/02 9:49:19 pm)
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Re: Re: Also
A foot rest

Nazo no Petenshi
shambler
(11/4/02 10:46:53 pm)
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ottoman

An Ottoman is the guy who drives Bart to school every day on the bus. Example:

"Heyyyy, Bart-dude!"

"Hey, OTTOMAN!!"




... See?

Nazo no Petenshi
shambler
(11/4/02 10:51:47 pm)
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f

Oh, two things:

There's a funny "in-gag" in that when Noah breaks into the nut-ward files and comes across Samara's files, there's a paper written entirely in Japanese. Heh.

And if you didn't notice, there's a brief flickering of a ring on screen just after they mention "before you die, you see the ring". It's nearer to the end of the movie somewhere - I think when Naomi's in the cabin.

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 10:59:15 pm)
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Last chance
T minus 30 minutes.

So far I have:

1. Newspaper headline Noah is reading
2. Missing ottoman

ring rasen loop
Administrator, Ring guru
(11/4/02 11:18:35 pm)
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Re: Last chance
The paper in the file was in Chinese, and has been pretty thoroughly dissected here:

pub70.ezboard.com/ftheringforumfrm0.showMessageRange?topicID=628.topic&start=21&stop=31[/i]


inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 11:29:24 pm)
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Time's up
No more requests, please. Thanks to those who responded.

I'll report the requested details (if I catch them) in about 3 hours.

(Be still my heart....)

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/5/02 2:28:41 am)
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My report
Re: Newspaper headline

The caption read “Parole Pending after Hea(ring)”. I don’t think this item has any special significance vis-à-vis the storyline.

Re: Ottoman

The ottoman is there when Rachael first visits Noah to analyze the tape. The ottoman is still there just before Samara emerges from the TV in the later sequence. After Rachael discovers Noah’s corpse, you are right, the ottoman is gone.

Here’s why I believe that is so: When Samara suddenly reappears a foot away from Noah after being further away when first standing up, Noah lurches back and crashes into the shelf – falling to the floor. He is now on the lower level of the room. He tries to crawl away from the general direction of Samara and the TV (upper level where the chair/ottoman are) to get to the opposite side of the room. Just then, the curse climaxes, he sees the ring, sees Samara’s hideous face – and as far as I am concerned, dies right there on that spot and in that position. However (and I am guessing here) for reasons that only the director may know, and possibly for more dramatic effect, the filmmakers wanted Noah to be discovered seated in the chair, turned away from the entrance instead of as a heap on the floor. Whereas before the chair and ottoman were oriented for watching the TV, now the chair with Noah’s body was oriented about 90 degrees to the right (diametric from the doorway), a few feet further to the right, and with the chair legs in a puddle of water. The ottoman was missing (IMO) because it was not required and would have spoiled the composition of the shot where the central themes were the body, the chair and the puddle of water. It is conceivable that Samara herself arranged the final death positions and locations as her signature and/or in order to achieve a more terrifying effect upon the people discovering the bodies.

mellybeanTC
further down the Spiral
(11/5/02 7:54:00 am)
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Re: My report
my theory remains that Samara is stealing ottomans for some sinister purpose. be careful where you put up your feet! buahaha

peace,
mellybeanTC

Maxi3D
shambler
(11/5/02 1:37:03 pm)
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Foot rest.
AHHHHH!!! AHHH! :eek Samara ate my feet!!

shamble motion
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 10:37:42 pm)
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horsie heads
did you guys notice the horsie heads on the teacher's blouse??

SamaraKeepsMeAwake
Sadako slave
(11/5/02 10:55:16 pm)
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Re: Ottoman
[[["An Ottoman is the guy who drives Bart to school every day on the bus. Example:
"Heyyyy, Bart-dude!"
"Hey, OTTOMAN!!"]]]

HA!!!! I wasn't the only Simpson geek to think that!

My name is Otto, Ilikes to get blotto.

Alexis Machine
Sadako slave
(11/7/02 5:38:35 am)
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Re: f
Quote:
And if you didn't notice, there's a brief flickering of a ring on screen just after they mention "before you die, you see the ring". It's nearer to the end of the movie somewhere - I think when Naomi's in the cabin.


There's quite a few of those in there. This one makes three that I know about.

The first one is around the moon in the Dreamworks logo at the beginning of the movie.

The second one, IIRC, is at the end of Rachel's dream sequence - the one that starts off with her pulling the electrode out of her throat (ewww). :) You have to pay attention - it's a one- or two-frame flash.

There may be more. I may take this crappy rip I have and go through it to see if I can find others. However, this is a *really* good excuse to go to the theater again. ;)

O Deka K
further down the Spiral
(11/7/02 11:26:52 am)
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Re: f
Re: Newspaper headline

The caption read “Parole Pending after Hea(ring)”. I don’t think this item has any special significance vis-à-vis the storyline.


OH, I GET IT!

Since the headline is "Parole Pending After Hea" (the newspaper is folded), the word "ring" is cut off the page! It's also the same newspaper where Noah leaves his coffee ring. So it's like "Parole Pending After Hea-" (picture of ring). Bahahaha... :lol

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Before you die... you GOTTA see The Ring!

Edited by: O Deka K at: 11/7/02 11:30:02 am
miharu
everyone will suffer
(11/7/02 6:01:02 pm)
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Re: f
and for some really obscure ottoman humor.. samara is stealing ottomans to keep dick van dyke from tripping on them. (rimshot)

-miharu

she never sleeps...

mycroftxxx
citizen of the Loopworld
(11/8/02 1:52:31 am)
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For completenesses sake
The newspaper article should be about the child-killer that rachel helped put behind bars a year before Katie's death.

Anyone about to see the movie that knows what Chris Connelly looks like?

inteferon 
out from the well
(11/9/02 4:01:52 am)
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Ottoman: Now you see it.....

mikejonas
moderator
(11/9/02 11:53:59 am)
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Chris Cooper
Quote:
The newspaper article should be about the child-killer that rachel helped put behind bars a year before Katie's death.

Anyone about to see the movie that knows what Chris Connelly looks like?


Chris Connelly is the MTV guy who does the movie-related interviews and specials. The child killer was played by Chris Cooper, who's better known in recent memory as the homophobic neighbor who kills Kevin Spacey's character in "American Beauty." Personally, I think he bears a passing resemblance to Richard Lineback, who played the Shelter Mountain innkeeper, which is why some posters in the past have confused the two.

us.imdb.com/Name?Cooper,+Chris+(I)

CgChick09 
out from the well
(11/9/02 12:57:53 pm)
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Re: Chris Cooper
uuh...ok