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caribsweets
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 8:35:10 pm)
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Question regarding when Noah & Naomi have found the well
Hello All..I'm so happy that a forum such a this exists, I enjoyed the Ring and have enjoyed reading the posts so far.

I have a question though: Anyone have a idea as to what the significance was of the nails coming out of the woodwork after Noah and Naomi had taken the lid off the well. Remember that part..when the nails in the cabin were lifting and coming out of the woodwork..

JyPsy
out from the well
(11/3/02 8:53:01 pm)
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Re: Question regarding when Noah & Naomi have found the
its part of the whole samara is coming thing.
we never saw what happens when a persons "time is up" we have only seen the watery result.

~JyPsy
The great phoob of the universe

mikejonas
manipulator of the Virus
(11/3/02 8:58:12 pm)
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Nails

That, and the nails had to come out so that the floorboards would fall and the TV would knock Rachel into the well.

inteferon
further down the Spiral
(11/3/02 9:01:09 pm)
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Nails
I think:

a) It was for creepy effect, and,

b) Samara needed Rachael to be tipped into the well. The nails coming out caused the floor to collapse, which caused the TV to fall through the floor and provide the required nudge.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 9:01:18 pm)
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Re: Nails
That part I blame on water pushing the nails out

InfluxDatum
out from the well
(11/3/02 9:14:23 pm)
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have to agree with mikejonas and interferon
done for creepy effects and to allow the tv to fall under and hit rachel. water would not have such effects. certainly water can rot wood and make nails pop OVER TIME, but not that way as shown in the film.

mikejonas
manipulator of the Virus
(11/3/02 9:19:35 pm)
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Nails
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certainly water can rot wood and make nails pop OVER TIME, but not that way as shown in the film.


ah...which brings us to Samara's powers, one aspect of which seems to be the ability to accelerate the effect of water on an item...or person...

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 9:22:45 pm)
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Re: Nails
Exactly

InfluxDatum
out from the well
(11/3/02 9:41:00 pm)
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"ah...which brings us to Samara's powers, one aspect of which seems to be the ability to accelerate the effect of water on an item...or person..."

I see no evidence of that nowhere in the film.

if you can be more concrete with reference to another scene, maybe I can take your explanation. In katie's room the water was just sitting there and the same with Noah's office. I just think that the water is the water that drips as she comes out from the well and materializes in the physical world and no more! Or a bi-product that results from jumping from the spirit realm into the physical real.

Samara could have just poped the nails with her ghostly hands.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 9:50:12 pm)
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She also posses people and makes them relive in a matter of seconds her drowing in the well. That is most thought out and researched explanation in all the board for why everyone died water logged impossibly and in a sitting position

InfluxDatum
out from the well
(11/3/02 10:03:09 pm)
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i take that she is cable of making people experience the waterlogg, but it is as you say an experience. The scene in which Katie dies, I could clearly see that her face was getting waterlogged as the line of sight is drawn between her and samara. Someone took still of those photos. I did not see water at all splashing on katie or anything like that. We do find water on the floor and on the door knob, but that's it. And in Noah's case, I don't think he touched any of the water that was originating from samara.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 10:30:11 pm)
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Not actually but mentally. The mind is powerful thing

Milly 
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 12:22:47 am)
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hmmm
I think that this whole "waterlogged" thing is not really a closed subject. There are lots of ways she could kill them, and part of what's so cool about this story is that we don't KNOW how she does is. That drowning thing is a cool, well thought-out theory, but it's just a theory.

InfluxDatum
out from the well
(11/4/02 12:58:02 am)
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I just came back from watching the Ring again. The nails actually started popping even before the water got to them. Some nails never got wet...

JyPsy
out from the well
(11/4/02 3:12:19 am)
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aside from the fact they all looked like they had been at the bottom of a well for oh.....7 days, i think water has a lot to do with it, and im pretty sure its important in ways we havent seen yet.

~JyPsy
The great phoob of the universe

Spootimus
Sadako slave
(11/4/02 5:49:24 am)
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I believe that Samara's powers also had something to do with electromagnetic waves, remember all the stuff at the beginning of the movie? Where Katie is talking about all the waves affecting peoples brains etc? An electromagnetic force could be held accountable for the screws coming out.

Foust
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 7:29:19 am)
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The screws
The screws twisted out, not pushed out.

bb0ynek0
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 10:17:19 am)
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Re: The screws
yeah cus screws have to be unscrewed duh

wendi46121
Sadako slave
(11/4/02 10:29:43 am)
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.....
ummm.. whats with this calling her "naomi" thing??? wtf is naomi?

InfluxDatum
out from the well
(11/4/02 10:42:34 am)
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naomi watts -> Rachel
:)

Rachael
further down the Spiral
(11/4/02 11:20:45 am)
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water
Some spirits manifest as mist, some as light, some as heat, Samara manifests herself as water. Water is her calling card, not her method.

I do believe though, that she kills in the "7 days all at once method" and that it is quick. (mercifully)

JustaPinoy
Sadako slave
(11/7/02 6:49:35 pm)
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Re: water
Well, back on topic. I don't know much about biology or anything like that, but is it possible the the water would make the wood expand, therefor "pushing" the nails up out of the holes?

JyPsy
citizen of the Loopworld
(11/7/02 6:53:50 pm)
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Re: water
its possible, im more for the idea that she is telekenetic.

~JyPsy
The great phoob of the universe

Rhyamoonlight
Sadako slave
(11/7/02 6:59:56 pm)
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Re: water
she had some kind of link with water even before she was killed i belive..
i mean... she made the horses go to the water and drown..
there wasnt many fish anymore once she came around..
it began to rain more....

me..

angrygn0me
Sadako slave
(11/7/02 10:20:35 pm)
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hmm
maybe she was just bloated!

JustaPinoy
Sadako slave
(11/7/02 10:43:34 pm)
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Re: Question regarding when Noah & Naomi have found the
Oh then again, there were also screws UNSCREWING themselves. And I don't think expanding wood would unscrew the screws, right...?