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TourneurJr
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(11/30/02 3:58:27 pm)
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One thing about RING remake that I do not understand!
Okay, there is one point that I find a bit illogical and weird:

At one point in the film, doesn't Rachel say: "I think... before you die, you see a ring..."

Where in the world does she get this conjecture? Sure, the ring is a primary component in the mystery, but what clue tells her that it foretells doom?

This puzzles me- that quote was in the movie, right? Or is my memory faulty...

Thoughts?

AngryVortex
further down the Spiral
(11/30/02 4:00:25 pm)
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Re: One thing about RING remake that I do not understand!
She may not mean EXACTLY before you die. She's probably just referring to a recurring part in the video (the appearence of a ring), and how eventually you die in seven days.

InfluxDatum 
everyone will suffer
(11/30/02 4:07:02 pm)
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Re: One thing about RING remake that I do not understand!
Yes, Rachel mentions it to Noah as they are going to Shelter Mountain.




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ibpants
Sadako slave
(11/30/02 5:39:12 pm)
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i think it was just an excuse to cram in a tag-line.
Maybe I just have a twisted mind but whenever I hear that line, I can imagine seeing it on some kind of 'facesitting' porn site.

mikejonas
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(11/30/02 6:36:31 pm)
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I think ibpants is on the right track; there wasn't much sense to include the line other than as a nice tagline (it may even have been dubbed in in post).

At least it's just awkward, and not cringeworthy; like in Star Trek: First Contact, where the inventor of warp drive (whom the Enterprise crewmembers meet thanks to time travel) figures out, "You're astronauts, on some kind of star trek!"

TourneurJr
shambler
(11/30/02 6:39:31 pm)
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True, true...
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At least it's just awkward, and not cringeworthy; like in Star Trek: First Contact, where the inventor of warp drive (whom the Enterprise crewmembers meet thanks to time travel) figures out, "You're astronauts, on some kind of star trek!"

**shudder**

Anyone see the movie The Beginning of the End or The Birds 2: Land's End?

**cringe**

Zerbinetta
Sadako slave
(11/30/02 7:05:14 pm)
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A possible explanation...
She may be referring to that squiggly spiral that Katie drew, the last page that was written on in her notebook. I'm not quite sure how she gets "the ring" from that, but she's been experiencing all the other stuff that Katie drew in that book: the scratching out of faces, and so on. So I think she thinks she will see something related to that spiral before she dies, like Katie did, and believes that Katie was trying to draw a ring over and over.

inteferon
everyone will suffer
(11/30/02 7:08:52 pm)
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Re: A possible explanation...
If you ask me, when Aidan was going ape-sh!t drawing rings, his pictures were reminiscent of solid spider webs. Kind of appropriate in a way.....

Aliasi Sudonomo
Sadako slave
(12/1/02 2:58:27 am)
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Re: A possible explanation...
I don't recall exactly when she says it... I seem to think it was near the end, post body retrieval. the second-to-last big scene of her in the well with the cover overhead certainly would act as a Big Giant Clue, as does the samara death flashback.

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davidshirt
Sadako slave
(12/1/02 3:34:59 am)
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One odd thing about Aiden's manic ring drawings is that they seemed to spiral and spiral and the last one they showed looked like the inside of a well.

inteferon
everyone will suffer
(12/1/02 3:53:38 am)
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What was with the ladder-like 'spokes' though? It's clear that he drew them deliberately.



Edited by: inteferon at: 12/1/02 3:54:11 am
InfluxDatum 
everyone will suffer
(12/1/02 4:25:43 am)
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"She may be referring to that squiggly spiral that Katie drew, the last page that was written on in her notebook. I'm not quite sure how she gets "the ring" from that, but she's been experiencing all the other stuff that Katie drew in that book: the scratching out of faces, and so on. So I think she thinks she will see something related to that spiral before she dies, like Katie did, and believes that Katie was trying to draw a ring over and over."

Exactly. Rachel was browsing through Katie's personal notebook. Things that Katie drew of the images in her head. Rachel noticed the elipsoidal spiral, which looked very much like a black hole. It was the very last thing Katie drew...

The contrast between a busy book and suddenly the rest of the notebook with white pages was interesting. It is parallel to what happens in real life before and after the 7 days are over. This is why she made the comment: "I think that before you die, you see the ring"

Edited by: InfluxDatum  at: 12/1/02 4:32:17 am
Zerbinetta
Sadako slave
(12/1/02 11:44:30 am)
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Spokes
"What was with the ladder-like 'spokes' though? It's clear that he drew them deliberately."

They look to me like cross-hatches, which cross the spiral to make little boxes that look like bricks.

inteferon
everyone will suffer
(12/1/02 2:34:39 pm)
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Re: Spokes
I've always taken the scribblings to imply something basically circular - i.e. the well. So where would a spiral fit in? Some kind of vortex? Is the drawing above of some Einsteinian space warp (great Simpsons episode, heh). Or is Aidan, perhaps for the first time in his life, drawing something with depth perception? If he'd go to the lengths of drawing representative bricks and adding perspective, why wouldn't he also take the care to make it a proper circle (or even an oval)?

*Edit*

As an afterthought, it occured to me that viral genetic material is often depicted as a coil-like spiral. Was Aidan drawing an RNA/DNA 'ladder'?

Edited by: inteferon at: 12/1/02 5:28:53 pm