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Hackermon
Sadako
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(12/2/02 5:18:52
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Lovecraft
Ring
After looking all over to see if this was discussed, I saw that
it's now safe to bring up my thoughts on Samara's
origins.
One of Lovecraft's themes (from 'Dunwich Horror' and
'Shadow over Innsmouth', also used by other authors) is one who has
inhuman parentage. I believe that quite a few have brought up the
theory about Richard not being the biologial father and perhaps a
'deal with the devil' was made at some point. And there is the
matter of Nyarlathotep's 'Million Favored Ones'.
In Ramsey
Campbell's 'Cold Print', a entiy is described that only attacks or
recruits those that know about it. The cursed tape could work in the
same way.
Saa, I'm still suffering from sleep deprivation....
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mikejonas
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(12/2/02
5:26:16 pm)
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Re: Lovecraft
Ring
Nothing for me to add to this thread, really, but thanks for taking
the time to wade through the posts to see if someone's posted about
this before. I do recall the Lovecraft connection being discussed
in-depth in the past, but I think it was so long ago (before the
remake's premiere, even) that the thread must've fallen off the
forum.
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Huw
Lines
the chosen
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(12/3/02 12:47:19
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Re: Lovecraft
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Yes, I think the Lovecraft thread is probably lost in virtual limbo
by now. There are possible connections between Lovecraft's ideas
(though he didn't invent the themes) and also traditional ghost
stories (both western and eastern) by authors such as M.R. James.
I'm not sure if the film-makers consciously intended any such
references, though. Maybe it's mentioned in one of the interviews
with Nakata Hideo or Suzuki Koji.
It's nice to find someone
else who's read Ramsey Campbell's work. Campbell himself has praised
Ringu on numerous occassions, calling it the most successful
reworking of the classic ghost in recent movie history.
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SamaraSawMe
EP
Sadako slave
(12/4/02 2:04:58 am)
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Re: Lovecraft
Ring
Ramsey Campell...
great work...
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Huw
Lines
the chosen
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(12/4/02 2:54:50
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Re: Lovecraft
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Oops, missed a word there...I meant classic ghost story.
Ramsey Campbell is one of the few writers who started out
(in his early teens) by imitating Lovecraft. M.R. James, Arthur
Machen, and others and subsequently found his own highly distinctive
and successful style of writing. At its best his fiction is among
the most powerful anywhere in the horror genre, past and present. If
you like his work, be sure to try Robert Aickman, one of Campbell's
mentors. Among superntural fiction enthusiasts, Aickman is
(deservedly) considered something of a deity.
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Aliasi
Sudonomo
Sadako
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(12/4/02 2:58:41
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Re: Lovecraft
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Also, while this is more closely related to Sadako in Ringu, both
of their "inhuman" forms bear a resemblance to a Deep One or certain
inhabitants of Innsmouth...
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