I wonder...

Author	Comment
ApacheRose Sadako slave (11/7/02 5:41:47 pm) Reply	I wonder... ...If any centipedes were harmed in the making of The Ring? :) Ok, just smack me! -Diana "In search of a better quote"
angrygn0me Sadako slave (11/7/02 5:59:21 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... Ick. I certainly hope so.
gdmariya Sadako slave (11/7/02 6:16:04 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... What about that poor horse going over the ship? Heh. I couldn't watch that scene the 2nd time I saw this movie. Edited by: gdmariya at: 11/7/02 6:16:56 pm
miharu everyone will suffer (11/7/02 6:23:46 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... the horse was cg-ed in at the important moments. they wouldn't really hurt a horse, that's more than illegal. heh.. there was even a whole interview posted about the topic on scifi with the director of the movie.. -miharu she never sleeps...
Isoline further down the Spiral (11/7/02 6:30:30 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... The horse that went over the side of the ship was synthetic, this is from SciFi.com's news section. "Horsing Around In Ring aomi Watts, who stars in the upcoming supernatural horror film The Ring, told SCI FI Wire that one of the most difficult scenes to film involved a runaway horse. "I felt terrible for the horses," she said in an interview while promoting the film. "But we had the animal people there who were watching very closely and telling us what we could and couldn't do, and everyone on the set was incredibly quiet and respectful in order not to spook them any more than they were already being spooked." The Ring, a remake of a Japanese hit movie, tells the story of a videotape that causes death within seven days of viewing. The scene in question features a horse traveling on a ferry along with Watts' character, Rachel. After viewing the videotape, Rachel has begun exhibiting bizarre symptoms, including causing a violent reaction in the horse, which escapes from its trailer in a wild frenzy. "We had a rotation," Watts said of the stunt horses used in the scene. "I think one horse actually got up at one point, and I was pretty scared that it might bolt. But nothing happened like that. And the people were incredible. How do you teach a horse to jump through a window? But it was great. I think it's a pretty powerful scene." In a separate interview, director Gore Verbinski assured that a digitally created horse was substituted for the real one at the critical moment when it jumps off the boat. "We can't do what Sam Peckinpah did these days," he said. "So the horse was all real until the moment when it went over the ferry, and that was a computer-generated horse." The Ring opens Oct. 18."
gdmariya Sadako slave (11/7/02 6:33:58 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... Hehe ;) Yes, but irrational me will always worry over scenes like that.
Isoline further down the Spiral (11/7/02 7:29:32 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... Thats okay, before I got schooled in film, I was often wondering about alot of crazy things like this. The Humane Society has memebers that are trained to work with filmakers so that animals can be used in movies without being abused or killed, which was sometimes the case in films of the past. Note the reference Verbinski made to Peckinpah. Peckinpah used alot of horses in his films and was famous for getting them to do stunts that the Humane Society of today would shut down right away. I think one of the more elaborate and terrifying stunts he did using horses was in the Wild Bunch. He actually had a bridge blow up with men and horses on it, and showed them plummet amongst the bridge debris into the muddy river below. That would never happen today in an American production with REAL horses.
HHHnRVDnMattHardy further down the Spiral (11/8/02 1:03:57 am) Reply	Re: I wonder... I went to the washroom during the horse scene the 2nd time I saw the movie. It almost made me cry.
Rhyamoonlight Sadako slave (11/8/02 1:05:59 am) Reply	Re: I wonder... oh the first time it almost made me cry.... and i knew right away what was happening that the horse was looking for the water.... me..
PoptartMcNugget Sadako slave (11/8/02 1:11:13 am) Reply	Re: I wonder... I often have found this thread of discussion interesting. People always seem to feel more sentimental towards animal deaths than they do the death of human beings. Discussions have centered around the innate evil that human beings possess as being an decisive reasoning why they deserve death, whether or not they have actually done something wrong (in essence everyone already has). I find this reaction interesting. If any of you saw the videos that was supposedly from the Al Queda camps gassing a dog, similar reactions ensued, however when this sort of thing is taken out on people it elicits a somewhat less emotional response. Do we all feel as though we are condemned anyway, and one human life is worth substantially less than that of a horse. Or are we too desensitized to violence againsst humans? Just thinking too much, again.
Rhyamoonlight Sadako slave (11/8/02 1:16:38 am) Reply	Re: I wonder... i find that intresting also.... i think it may just be that we are "desensitized to violence againsst humans" on tv... i highly doubt that if i was to actually see a child and then a dog get ran over that seein the dog would effect me more.. i think its just we're so used to seein video and pictures of human's bee'n kill'd or hurt that it dosnt bother us so much.. as we dont really see animals bein huet/killed.. me..
Turtle God Kame moderator (11/8/02 1:19:01 am) Reply	eh... we're just 1 step closer to tv aired executions and my vision, the renewal of the coloseum! Go to Kame's House for assorted junk! Last upd8: 10/10/02
Rhyamoonlight Sadako slave (11/8/02 1:30:48 am) Reply	Re: eh... tv aired executions woudl be a bit much for me.. i douno... it still bothers me when someone died.. i didnt htink they shoulda killed the guy that park'd the truck ( or van) nect to what was it the world traid center? and then walked away.. and killed so many ppl? he did it becaus eof waco remember him? i douno why but i felt sadden'd the day they killed him... and many were happy.. many watched it.... me....
miharu everyone will suffer (11/8/02 6:05:45 am) Reply	Re: eh... i believe you're thinking of timothy mcveigh, the man who blew up the oklahoma city federal building. -miharu she never sleeps...
Rhyamoonlight Sadako slave (11/8/02 1:16:27 pm) Reply	Re: eh... yah thats who i was thinkin.... me...
ApacheRose Sadako slave (11/9/02 1:38:27 pm) Reply	NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RING... This really has nothing to do with the ring except that it is a joke about a centipede which made me think of the ring when I heard it. A guy goes to the pet store, but doesn't have very much money. He buys a centipede for 50 cents and brings it home in a box. At home, he is so ecxited about his new pet that he leans over and whispers to the box, :"Hey little guy, do you want to go for a walk?" No answer from the box. So he leans over again and says quite a bit louder, "I SAID, DO YOU WANT TO GO FOR A WALK???" From the box: "I HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME, A*HOLE, I'm putting on my shoes." OK, someone can just ban me from this board now. (NOT REALLY, PLEASe :) ) "In search of a better quote" Edited by: ApacheRose at: 11/9/02 1:39:20 pm*
angrygn0me Sadako slave (11/9/02 2:23:05 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... It always makes me sick when animals are killed/harmed in films... but its rare that human death will affect me. Also, when I hear the news on TV about a child or animal being harmed, it bothers me... when its an adult human, it does not. I think it has something to do with the innocence of the child or animal... and the fact that they cannot comprehend the pain and terror they are experiencing when they die. It just makes it that much worse.
InfluxDatum citizen of the Loopworld (11/9/02 2:28:01 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... all human life is precious and I value all the same. I am split on animal rights you see...I rather have a cow for dinner than as a pet.
Isoline further down the Spiral (11/9/02 9:59:08 pm) Reply	Re: I wonder... "all human life is precious and I value all the same. I am split on animal rights you see...I rather have a cow for dinner than as a pet." Understood, I often feel divided but then I remember, just because we are thinking animals doen't mean we are not still animals. What I mean when I say thinking animals is that we use our cognitive skills more than our instincts.