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micmic320
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 1:50:21 am)
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I just finished watching the ring...
I just finished watching The Ring and I had a few theories...lemme know what you think. I have never seen the original Japaneese version...so I may have missed the obvious :)

(1) Katie's Death
Becca didn't have to witness Samara to have to go to an institution. Just seeing a friends body like that (yuck) would cause ANYONE to go insane. Must have been enough to effect her so that she could tell Rachel had 4 days left though...but the spirit did stay in the room. Aiden says "its not her room anymore" and he sees the ripple (like water) in the screen too.

(2) Possession
I liked the idea brough up that samara possessed the bodies of those who had seen the tape. Of course they are possessed the second they actually see the tape--Katie writes in her notebook on a drawing with dead horses (these things in my head) and also tells Aiden that she only has a few days to live.

(3) Scribbly faces
The faces on the magazines in Katie's notebook are scribbled because Samara always hid her face behind her hair (with the exception of that evil eye)...maybe because of low self esteem? maybe to bring her victims to understand her?

(4) Blurry faces
Once you watch the video, when you see yourself your face is blurry. This is what your reflection would look like if you looked down into water (like you watch yourself) or if Samara was looking up at you from the water (haha I got you now.)

(5) The copy of the tape?
I don't think that the copy of the tape is what saves you--it could be a NUMBER of things. The copy is made before Rachel visits Becca in the mental hospital and Becca tells Rachel that she has 4 days left. So she obviously wasn't saved at that moment.

(6) Flies
Maybe pulling the fly off of the screen saves you? If the flies in the well are symbolic to the souls that she took (as earlier pointed out) maybe the fact that Rachel pulled hers away kept her from being taken by Samara. The fly is in every scene of the video--until Rachel pulls it off.

(7) Tape in the mental hos. of Samara
The two people that saw the tape of Samara in the mental institution are Rachel and Mr. Morgan. These two people are spared. Mr. Morgan kills himself...not taken by Samara. Rachel doesn't die. So when it is said that Samara wants to be heard--maybe she doesn't want to be heard through the evil film but through the eyes of a scared child forced into a mental institution.

(8) The mirror
In the mirror on the video, it would look as if Samara was walking away, but she's really walking toward you (she just covers her face with her hair)...the same way she walks from the TV...she starts to get you right from the beginning.

Now that I have let you know my theories, I have a few questions.

The girlfriend, who closely resembles Samara...seems to be smirking...she didn't seem to be going UP to his room...but didn't look like she was going down either...kinda like she was just there. Now...it seems that Samara was stolen, and not given birth to. It says they were gone for six months and came back with a baby...that usually takes nine months :) Now on the birth certificate it says that Anna Morgan is the mother but that could easily have been changed. While skimming over the birth certificate, there is the section asking "multiple births" which is marked, but I missed the marking. Anyone know if it says twins maybe?

Who made the tape in the first place??

What's with the hotel guy? He knew about the tape? He's creepy :O And the cards??

Did you guys see the hidden rings? There was a big one right after the horse dies, a small on at the lighthouse, and a few scattered as scenes shifted. I thought that was a pretty cool effect :)

I wasn't slapped upside the head with a frying pan of clues as to what was going on...I'm still looking for a handle :D I just wanna know what everyone else thinks about these...

inteferon
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 3:12:45 am)
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Re: "Who made the tape in the first place??"
Interesting theories. Thanks.

Samara apparently has the ability to project electromagnetic energy such that TVs turn on by themselves, fridge door magnets stop working, etc. As Noah discovered while looking though her medical records, she is also capable of projecting X-rays at film such that images are deposited. It would therefore not be that much more difficult for her to project magnetic images onto video tape and create the moving pictures of the video. Quite a talented kid, this Samara.

Bruised Pristine
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 4:32:05 am)
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Re: becca, samara, etc.
Samara's birth certificate says 'single birth'. And I don't think she was adopted, or stolen, because if she was the movie would have just kept the doctor's speech about the Morgan's saying she was adopted and left it at that. They never would have showed a birth certificate at all if we weren't meant to think she was actually conceived by Anna. Also, if she really was adopted, Anna and Richard wouldn't have forged a birth certificate, because they were telling everyone she was adopted, anyway.

Also, I don't think Noah's girlfriend looked very much like Samara. She looked much more like Becca--she and Becca both have dark complexions and thin pointed faces, while Samara is pale with a rounded face. Samara actually did resemble Anna quite a bit.

I agree that Katie's corpse would be enough to drive anyone crazy, but her parents--while rather disturbed--aren't insane. Also, Becca's fascinated with televisions now, which makes me think she saw <i>something</i> relating to the tv.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Rachel hadn't made the copy of the tape when she went to see Becca. But even if she did, Becca's prediction came true: Samara showed Rachel how she died, four days later. (Which makes me wonder if everyone got the full bag-over-the-head Samara experience, or if they just got the @#%$ scared out of them by dead!Samara. Some of the experience is obviously <i>being</i> Samara--Rachel was covered with electrodes in the instituation in her dream, and all the victims end up rotted just like her. I really do wonder if everyone got to see through Samara's eyes, or if that was just for Rachel.)

I don't think Samara posesses so much as infects. Katie didn't know why she was seeing things. Only Aiden seemed to have any real communication with her--everyone else just saw things in their heads, without any real explanation. The theme of a virus was throughout the film--the idea that Samara's pain is something that needs to be spread from person to person. This is why copying the tape saves you--you're spreading the virus to someone else. Even if it doesn't kill you, you still feel the effects--Rachel's burn, getting knocked over by the tv, etc. I certainly think <i>something</i> will happen to you on the 7th day, even if you don't get killed.

I don't think pulling the fly off the screen saves you. Its just indicative that the images on the screen are going from flat and unreal to alive and able to cross the wall of the television into reality.

I also don't think viewing the tape of Samara in the institution will save you. Samara's tape is the one she <i>wants</i>people to see--she is actively sending it to people, actively encouraging people to spread it. The mental institution vid is just something Rachel saw on accident.

CgChick09
further down the Spiral
(11/3/02 8:03:10 am)
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Re: becca, samara, etc.
Im pretty sure Becca saw samara and not just katies body. I mean, her mom saw her body and rachael saw noah's and they didnt go insane just b/c of that. At the mental place she had that screen cuz she didnt wanna see the tv so the tv has something to do with it all.

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 8:20:03 am)
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Re: Re: becca, samara, etc.
Do we dare trust televisions ever again? o.o

rustonmire
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 9:56:26 am)
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Did anyone else look closely at the medical report?
It's one of the partial pages you see when going through the maze of the Ring remake site. Under a box for Samara's sex it is scratched out. The scratched out box is one of the links you can click on. I heard someone else on here referring to Samara being a hermaphrodite. Could anyone please illuminated us more on this strange aspect of Samara?

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 10:02:17 am)
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Re: Did anyone else look closely at the medical report?
No Samara isn't but Sadako is or at least in the novels and Korean Remake of the movie

Felix Underhill
out from the well
(11/3/02 12:38:17 pm)
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Re: Did anyone else look closely at the medical report?
I was going to mention that here after reading the other posts. I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for you quick-posting kids... :D

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SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 12:47:22 pm)
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Re: Re: Did anyone else look closely at the medical report?
*giggles*

sohcahtoa90
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 1:53:19 pm)
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concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long.
I think we can pretty well all agree that Samara (sp?) made the tape through her ability to transfer elecrtomagnetic impulses to animals or any visual media. The thing I got out of it was this.
The recording of session 0015 is the original recording of the 'video'. Samara didn't leave the hospital later and then make the recording, she did it after her last line in the the hospital, something like "I will show everyone".
Remember Rachel didn't see that last bit of the session as Mr Morgan interrupted her. In fact it looked like the last part was erased. That last line was heard later when Rachel experienced the death.
So I figure Samara had her say with the Dr. recording her and then imeadiatly recorded those images. Now the Dr. isn't affected because either Samara wasn't yet dead or he could simply have made a copy for his own records. He certainly wouldn't have gotten the phone call with Samara sitting in front of him.
So she gets released, sent home and her mother kills her and then herself, just as Samara prophisized. Now here father being interested in the deaths, signs out Samara's last session and sees the images, becoming the first person to get the virus.
He realizes some how that he needs to make a copy of it to survive so he does and leaves the copy at the new hotel which covered up the well. He then goes home and erases the end of the session 15 tape so he doesn't have to deal with it.
Does any of that sound right?

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 2:04:01 pm)
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Re: concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long
Some of it is logical. Some of it isn't. It works for you. We'll all happy with that

angelicdecay 
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 2:37:54 pm)
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Re: concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long
whoah, wait a minute now..since when is samara prophesizing things? i personally think that she has no need to...it seems as though she just already knows everything, being the perfect embodiment of evil that she is...

s h e * n e v e r * s l e e p s ...

sohcahtoa90
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 2:39:48 pm)
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Re: concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long
Well that is what I meant, I was trying unsuccessfully to be poetic. :)

SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 3:09:51 pm)
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Re: concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long
Which she isn't though

damaged wolf
Sadako slave
(11/3/02 4:10:57 pm)
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Re: concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long
the fly from the tape represents all of the flies down in the well that fly up when Rachel and Noah drop a rock down. The flies were probably feeding on Samara's body.























SadakoIsEve
everyone will suffer
(11/3/02 4:13:40 pm)
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Re: Re: concerning who made the tape. Sorry it's long
mmm flies *Renfield like laugh*