citizen of the Loopworld
(11/20/02 8:04:00 am)
I was re-reading old topics and I think it was devilworm who
brought up the possibility that the SM0015 tape may have been
"cursed" as well.
Let's just say that the doctor at Eola who
dies, dies during the recording of SM0015. As we all know, the tape
ends abruptly. Perhaps the disturbing death scene is erased or
edited out or whatever.
After Samara's death, Richard checks
out the tape and watches it-disturbed, he says "Honey-take a look at
this" and shows it to Anna.
7 days later-Richard witnesses
Samara come after Anna-in fright, Anna ends up swan-diving over the
cliff (Like Kaite's boyfriend)
Richard realizes he lived
because he made a copy.
FF 24 years to Rachel showing up
with a tape. Richard suspects, but he can't be sure. All he knows
is, he's managed to keep her evil contained within him and within
SM0015. But now he knows she never sleeps, she'll never
Despondent, he watches SM0015, in a lame attempt to put
the curse back on himself, and he kills himself, the tape, and all
Morgan A/V equipment, the "breeding stock" if you will, in a
spectacularly horrific suicide....
What he doesn't know, is
Samara will always find a way, frustrated that her curse has ended
with her mother, that her father won't show the tape to anyone else,
she burns the cabin 12 tape while the neice of a reporter is
What he doesn't know, is everyone will suffer, sooner
(this is a theory-there could be variations, the
SM0015 tape killed the doctor when he watched it, etc...)
further down the Spiral
(11/20/02 9:42:01 am)
the first thing i wondered when seeing the tape's file name ...
where are SM0001 through SM0014??
i don't think Richard made
a copy of the SM0015 tape, it's labeled "SM0015" in old-fashioned
typewritten style just like the label at the hospital. i think he
went and got all he could to try to figure out what exactly Samara
my theory about the tape cutting off just after she says
"But he doesn't know ..." and looking directly at the camera (not
the doctor!) is that she knew she had powers to make images that
could kill ... perhaps she made some disturbing images right then
and there, like the thermographs. it'd explain why the cursed tape
doesn't look like a first effort.
manipulator of the Virus
(11/20/02 3:05:09 pm)
This is a very interesting theory and is plausible (to me) in many
One possible hole: Rachael saw SM0015 too, but
didn't make a copy - and yet survived. Would she have been saved
under the 'blanket policy' of having copied any other curse tape (no
matter how many different curse tapes were seen)?
further down the
"Despondent, he watches SM0015, in a lame attempt to put the curse
back on himself, and he kills himself, the tape, and all Morgan A/V
equipment, the "breeding stock" if you will, in a spectacularly
Nah. I mean, he knows Rachel made a
copy so killing himself won't end the curse. He might just kill
himself in despair though so I'll buy that part of it. But I too
wonder about SM001-14.
Next to the tape the orderly pulls out
are 2 more, they look slightly different but the labels can just
BARELY be seen on screen. Could these be some of the missing tapes?
However the blurry Ring copies we have aren't good enough to see
what they say. We will have to wait for the DVD.
I don't think SM0015 was cursed. Richard Morgan got it back out
after Rachels first visit. It was in the VCR ready to go when Rachel
arrived the second time. My other question: Did VHS cassettes like
that even exist in '78? Weren't they much larger?
The tape from the cabin was indeed cursed. I don't think that there
is any indication in the movie that the medical tape SM0015 was
cursed in any way.
I find it hard to believe that a hospital
or mental health facility would have a/v material from a patient
scattered all throught the facility. I did not see shelf room for
volumes SM0001 - SM0014.
everyone will suffer
(11/20/02 8:33:31 pm)
perhaps whatever was taped in 01-14 was inconsequential to samara's
my interpretation through scouring through the
official website and just plain remembering stuff from the movie is
this (loosely quoted):
Samara: but he doesn't
Doctor: he doesn't know what, Samara?
she never sleeps...
manipulator of the Virus
(11/20/02 9:36:24 pm)
Compliments to the hospital for not plastering a patient's full
name on a casette containig such personal material. Discretion is a
good idea in case the tape gets into the wrong hands. They could
have used other ciphers to label tapes, but it appears that that
simply went with the patient's initials. Over the years they no
doubt had more than one patient with the initial's "S.M." and
perhaps Samara Morgan was the 15th. There aren't necessarily 14
preceding Samara tapes.
Edited by: inteferon
at: 11/20/02 9:41:27 pm
no tapes sm0001 - sm0014
citizen of the Loopworld
(11/21/02 5:02:21 pm)
It's just a theory.
I definately think the tape went to
static because the doctor dropped dead. And it wasn't from Lung
Someone erased that part. Either the hospital or
Now I've morphed my theory slightly. To be able to
kill you, Samara needs to have her "fingerprints" on you-the
Well, now that she's dead, the only way
she can do that is either with the tape, or maybe with a psychic
person, like Aidan.
But her mother had already had images
burned in her head. Her father too-but she may have been keeping her
father alive to torture him. I think she wanted her Mommy with
"I Love My Mommy"
Hmm. Maybe it's Anna that comes out of
the tv. Grown up, long black hair. There's got to be a reason they
used an adult...
I dont think there was a curse on the hospital tape since the whole
story revolves around a curse that makes you live out Samara's 7
days in the well and she obviously isn't dead when the hospital tape
That doesn't mean the doc doesnt die though. We
really don't know how or why Samara ends released from the hospital.
All we know is that Samara ends up at home and then Anna kills her